Canada will be competing in the World Group for a fourth straight year after defeating Colombia 3-2 in the World Group Play-offs in Halifax September 12 to 14. Photo shown is from Halifax courtesy Peter Figura.
Japan will be competing in the World Group for a second straight year. Its victory over Canada in the first round in February marked the first time Japan advanced out of the World Group first round. Missing an injured Kei Nishikori in the quarter-finals, Japan then fell 5-0 to Czech Republic.
Ontario Tennis writers Peter
Figura and Jan McIntyre caught up with Davis Cup captain, Martin Larendeau at
Roland Garros in 2014. The interview they completed with Martin is
included below.
Martin Laurendeau, Captain of Canada’s Davis Cup Team and Responsible for Tennis Canada’s Players in Transition.
Peter Figura and Jan McIntyre met
up with Martin Laurendeau, following Milos Raonic’s 4th round win over Marcel Granollers at
Roland Garros in Paris, to discuss Davis Cup and Canadian tennis.
PF – You were part of the group of
6 – 8 guys inside the top 200 and that was probably the 2nd best era in Canadian Tennis next until
now. What is the difference between the two and how come what is happening now
didn’t happen then? How do you see that from your perspective as a player, as a
coach, and as a Davis Cup Captain?
ML – I would say that the main
difference is probably that back in our era we had a good group in grand slam
main draws. There was Andrew Sznajder, Chris Pridham, Glenn Michibata, Grant
Connell and myself. 5 or 6 guys and we were pretty much left on our own.
Most of us had gone to college. It was basically the only way to do it. There
was not much support. At home there wasn’t much happening. At college we
got a lot of training. Not just Canadians but most Americans and a lot of
foreigners too - it was a road that a lot of players used to prepare for the
pros. Once we left college there wasn’t much support – no funding, no money,
just a few guys sharing hotel rooms and grabbing buses and trains and just
doing the best we could at that time. Now the guys have great support, they are
just as keen as we were back then. They want to be the best they can be – good
on them and good on the Federation. The coaches at TC have come a long way in
player development.
PF – What do you see in Davis Cup?
You put a team together and also by my observation and from others, it seems to
be more of a team approach. How did you do it?
ML – A lot of it is up to the
guys. There is a learning curve with the Davis Cup format. The
competition itself is very different from the tour. You need to play for your
country, in a three-day competition not a weekly competition. Maybe you play,
maybe only play one match, maybe you don’t, there are a lot of unknowns and
it’s a team event. So guys growing up in an individual sport now have to play
in a team competition. There is a big adjustment to be made there. So it takes
a while for the guys to get it and learn that everyone needs to do their thing.
Ultimately this is a team approach and a team effort. It is easier when you
play college baseball or football and you just go from team to another team but
it is the same team sport. Secondly, I think that over the years we have just
gotten better and better individually. We got more support from Tennis Canada,
the staff have gotten better in the sense that we are more involved throughout
the whole year with that objective and the guys themselves just believe more.
We spent many years down in the qualifying rounds but it has been 3 or 4
years now that we have been in the World Group and the guys are doing better
internationally. We believe that if can put it together then we can do well in
Davis Cup.
PF – You were close in the finals
last year…
ML – Yeah we were close but far away
still. We faced a tough team, we faced a great team and you know it may prove
that it was better to have a good run but still get stopped in our tracks
there. If we want to go beyond the semis and into the finals and win, then it
is two more wins that we need to do. Maybe a bit – we beat Spain we were facing
a team with injuries. It was a quick, quick rise for us. We have the youngest
guys by far. Most teams have guys that are 27 and older and we had guys back
then at 22 years old. Of course Nadal wasn’t there and a few top 15 guys
weren’t there but still we faced a team that would have put us away in a
heartbeat in years past. And we did beat Italy with their best players and
that’s the way it goes. We had a good run - our players were in their best form
and played their best tennis. That’s what you need in this competition. And
they believed – they believed before but even more as the weekend unfolded. The
first one we won that we knew we would play together for a few ties in a row.
The guys were winning tournaments and going deep so it was all coming together.
But this year was different, every tie is different. France won it one year,
they went down the Champs des Elyséé with the President and then they lost in
the first round. This competition is different - you need your best players to
be at their best. Look at Japan, we didn’t have our best players, we had
injuries. Then the next round, Nishikori was sidelined with injury and (other
guy) so `
PF – Four years ago, no one will
remember that Milos was facing match points against Estrella (Victor Estrella
Burgos of the Dominican Republic)
ML – Two match points down and now he is
in the quarters here (Roland Garros). So things can go quickly. You know you
need things to go your way, chips to fall your way as much as you prepare
professionally speaking you still have to have momentum and still have to have
home court advantage as much as you can. You still have to have your players
healthy and you have to have them playing their best tennis so a lot of things
have to go right for a good year.
PF - What is your plan to stay in
the World Group level? Except for having team members at a very young
age. We will probably have a new doubles team soon.
ML – Soon, not yet… but soon. Two years
ago our guys were young and still learning and never the less we have been in
the World Group for a few years. I know the guys are keen, they are not
satisfied with a semi-final run they want to do better. They know their best
years are ahead and they know that they want to do better and this is the most
important part. You can have staff and Federations and everyone in the whole
nation wanting to do well and to do better but it comes down to the players
being hungry and thirsty and wanting to win and we have that. We are very
fortunate to have a keen group of guys that really want to make an impact at
that level.
PF - Tell me about bringing new
guys onto the team. In training – you had Filip
ML – You have to look at right handed
and left handed players. Training partners that will help the guys to play
their best. Simulate the game styles from the opponents. You need to balance
chemistry. Not all the guys get along so you have to factor that in. Make sure
that the team aspect, spirit and chemistry is number one then you can have a
team that can produce really well because it is an enjoyable week and guys are
ready to do whatever for each other. That part is really important. Bring our
young guys in whenever we can. Everyone that has gone through the system when
they were 17 or 18, 16,19, in their teenage years we want them to be there to
feel the locker room, the build up of the strategy for the Davis Cup, the
stresses, the experience and the enjoyment of Davis Cup. Everyone has had a run
at it. Filip did it and the younger ones coming up with have their turn.
PF - What did it take to convert
someone in your time from college player to tour player? College, I don’t
think is playing that much of a role. I don’t know if you agree with that.
ML – Now it has been replaced a bit. In
our generation we were used to that format. Our team just got along. We had no
choice. There was no support. We would travel together we would make our
schedules together, we would try to stick together there was only a handful of
us. Now there is the National Training Center in Montreal, which helps a
lot. We send our youngsters to Junior Davis Cup, we send them on national
tours, and they train together in Montreal. The coaches follow them through
15-18. There is a sense that you need your buddy to train with. You want to be
better than him but you also need him. That concept is helping in many ways and
is similar to what we had in college. And now it is kind of replaced with a
team environment having coaches and players all going for the same goal. It has
been good in that way.
PF - How much were you involved in
Montreal in the training center?
ML – Not much because I have 30+ weeks a
year on the road. Obviously we need coaches that are a lot more present – a lot
more fulltime. I do stop by, I do follow what is happening and I do pitch
in whenever I can with some trainings and stuff. The bulk of the work is with
Guillaume Marx and Jocelyn
Robichaud and the
guys looking after our young male players.
PF - Are you watching juniors here?
We don’t have boys
playing here. We only have one girl – (Françoise) Abanda. Our boys are too
young this year. In the next few years they will be coming along.
JM - We saw guys like Hugo Di Feo
here last year.
ML – And Peliwo. They are now too old.
Our next group are 14 and 15.
JM - So we have a little bit of a
gap.
ML – Yep.
JM - One of the things I mentioned
to Michael Downey a few years ago was that I wasn’t seeing any Tennis Canada
presence here. We saw Daniel playing and lots of fans. I saw Canadian club
level coaches here and they would point out to me the American coaches who were
following the futures and all that. Why isn’t Tennis Canada here?
At least bring some of the youngsters to get the feel, like you say for Davis
Cup. Why not the same thing for a Slam because this is like the holy grail of
tennis?
ML – Well yeah. That part has gone
better. We have our coaches that do the ITF Junior circuit. Ultimately, a guy
like Peliwo, he didn’t just play the Grand Slams he played Group 1, Group 2,
Group 3, Group 4 and Group 5. Did what he needed to do to get a good ranking to
access the bigger tournaments. So we do that with our young guys. I am at the
Grand Slams and some of the Masters Series and some of the other tournaments.
Sylvain Bruneau does the same with the girls and Louis Borfiga comes along. He
is here at the moment. He goes to New York and Toronto. And some of our Board
members have been coming to Davis Cup in the last few years. Realizing that
being there makes a difference and this has come with our successes, It has
come with our nation coming together and doing what needs to be done to be the
best at this.
PF - What else has to happen to in
your perfect world what is missing, if anything?
ML - We have
everything we want really to get the job done. We have a lot more funding than
we ever had which allows our coaches to travel worldwide. Maybe 10 years ago if
we had budget constraints and we had a tour in south east Asia or somewhere
that it was too expensive, we might decide to go the US but then it is more
difficult and a different experience. Now we do what needs to be done. We are
given the support for that. They trust our expertise and our knowledge of the
game to know what needs to be done and let us do it. We are conscious of the
expenses, of course, but we have great staff, great coaches, great facilities,
and we have great programs and we probably have the best junior program in the
world, I believe. And we have an incredible board of directors that is so
supportive of what we do and they believe in us and they trust us a lot. We
have had great results in Davis Cup, Fed Cup and Juniors. I don’t know what
else we would need. The rest is a result. The process itself, I think that we
are on top of things, doing the right things. It comes down to finding coaches
– ultimately the guys doing the work in the field day in and day out is very
important. We have the ability to hire guys like Ljubičić, or outside coaches
when we need to. And it is working good. We have full time staff coaches who
are there all the time so we are able to complement and fill the gaps and it
has been working good. We have the support from Michael, and Kelly now that are
very keen on expanding and keeping the results coming. There is a lot of effort
and energy going the right way, being channeled and funneled the right way and
that has a made a difference over the years.
PF - You have the youngest team but
they are going to get older. Do you think that there are enough juniors right
now?
ML - I would love
to have more players and more juniors. I would love more players like when we
were in Japan and we had three injuries that weekend. You can’t plan for that
but it would be nice to have 6 or 7 more guys in the top 100 to fill the gaps
or pitch in when you need to bring them in. That’s a product an outcome
basically, the process is being done very well and we need to improve on that.
Of course I would love to have more juniors, more kids playing the game. There
are programs for this. We are doing the best we can and no one is satisfied at
this stage. We think this is the start of something bigger and better to come.
We are all very excited.
PF - Would you have imagined in
your playing days that 10 years from when you retired, when we did that
coaching course together, that people would be coming to you or that anyone
would be looking up to Canadian tennis as a sort of model?
ML - Not really.
We were an outside nation all the time. You need a few players to do well
obviously.
PF - The question would be maybe
from your point of view, what is wrong with American tennis? You are watching
all the time right?
ML - The Americans
are not the only nation to be struggling from where they were to where they are
now. I think maybe some of the other nations like South Africa and Sweden are
even worse. They have no idea what happened It happened so fast. The game is
growing. More nations come up with players. It is so international now. There
are only 100 players in the top 100 and there are more and more nations
fighting for those spots. So those spots become more and more rare and they are
working as hard as they can. They brought in José Higueras to try to develop
the clay philosophy and training center. Now they are projected to build a
100-court facility in Orlando with indoor courts – with clay courts and hard
courts and they are trying to find a way to get in the game. It is tough and I
am proud of what we have done. We don’t have the numbers of Spain or France or
some of the other world nations at that level. But the few that we have pro
rata wise we are doing very well. In the last 7 or 8 years since we have had
the training center, its not like we have had 50 kids training there and if you
have 1 or 2 players out of 50 that’s great odds. And we’ve had 3 out of 8 or 3
out of 10, which are phenomenal odds. Things are going our way and hopefully we
can keep that up.
We have passionate
people who really care. Debbie Kirkwood is here doing meetings now. Jack Graham
who was on the board and is now with the ITF he’s here. Our international
presence has really come along well with Stacey Allaster (Chairman
and CEO of the WTA) and
Michael Downey, Vanessa Webb (on the WTA Board for the players).
JM - Do you feel that when you go
around to different places that there is more respect for Canadian tennis?
ML – Definitely.
It comes down to results and when you have results something must have been
done right somewhere. But it is not always Federation driven, sometimes or
maybe down the road, we may have 3 guys in the top 50 that come down to having
driven parents or having a great coach in their neighbourhood that has brought
them to be where they are. Tennis Canada is not the only way. The next wave
could be an exodus of kids going to the United States. We have Brayden Schnur
that went to the NCAs – he was voted freshman of the year. He played no. 1 for
Carolina. He only lost two matches and ended up top 10 player and that is
another way to go about it. I think that the more we have Genie’s and Milos’
and Vasek’s and Nestor’s and Fed Cup and Davis Cup results, the more that it is
on TV and in the papers, the more the kids believe that is not just an odd
thing that one player is making a living out of that, they believe that they
can do that. They are inspired by that and think that they can make the
quarterfinals here one day or play Wimbledon one day. That is what I did, and
that is what has to happen with the next generation of ball kids being there at
the Rogers Cup, and they want to play tennis there one day as a professional.
All these good results just pull up everyone up to the top and there is this
mass belief that we can do it.
PF - I spoke with Louis Borfiga, when we saw each other in Montreal, I asked what is next
for you and he said that within the next 5 years Davis Cup, Fed Cup or a Grand
Slam. What is your take on that?
ML - Yes. We have
two players - one in the semis and two in the quarters here. The more you get
to these stages, you are two or three matches away so you increase the odds of
it happening. And the more this happens, the more you need programs because
when you have player that shoots up, it gets the kids excited and you need the
programs to welcome these kids. If there is nowhere to go or it is expensive.
It kind of happened in Brazil when Guga Kuerten was winning this 3 years in a
row, they lost their window, this guy had an impact as a player for his country
but where are the hundreds of Brazilians that could be playing here as a result
of that? You need good facilities when people come knocking at the door, you
need to be able to say you can go here, you can do this, you have this program,
this place where you can train. You are at this level, we have this for you and
you can put the pieces together and you can accelerate the results this way.
This is where I think that we have improved at lot. When the chips are coming
together now it is not because of one thing but a lot of things were in place
that reaches a lot of different levels for the sport.
PF - The last question - Milos and
Novak on Tuesday?
ML - It’s a tough
draw. You know he had a good draw, he’s made the most of it so far and you have
to run into a top 4 guy somewhere. He’s got to run into Novak it looks like.
Its tough, for me the match against (Gilles) Simon was key in his development.
Because both guys knew that the draw was opening up and it was a really good
chance to make the quarters and you won’t meet a guy like Djokovic or Nadal
before the quarters or Murray or those guys. The way he served for the match
and lost it, he kept his composure on Center Court against a Frenchman, I think
we may look back on this as a key moment in his career, because he has been in
4th round a few times
already and that allowed him to play today and make the quarterfinals, he may
need a few semis. That is what happened to Federer, to Nadal and that’s what
happened to Djokovic. They didn’t just shoot through and do it all in one go.
He’s on track with his targets and Novak is going to be a major obstacle and if
he wants to win a grand slam you need to a major hurdle or several major
hurdles for you to go through. So that is why this match, as difficult as it is
going to be, is necessary in his development.